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Post by whaler4life on Jul 25, 2011 23:57:20 GMT -5
I have no certainty of this but 2012 expansion looks to be including Charleston, Las Vegas, Little Rock, and Mobile.
IMO the league should include Hartford (obviously), Omaha, Sacramento, and Norfolk should the UFL fold. All the cities have strong fan bases and would love to continue watching pro football
Thoughts?
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Post by jwolf on Jul 26, 2011 0:01:35 GMT -5
Boy I sure hope the UFL can stay the course and ultimately succeed on its own but if worse came to worse it would be great to preserve their franchises in the SFL or somewhere. It would be a crying shame to see them disappear forever.
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Post by jwolf on Jul 26, 2011 9:03:14 GMT -5
Hypothetical 2012 SFL (if the UFL folded):
SFLWest:
Las Vegas Locos (scrap the planned SFL LV team)
Little Rock Ironmen
Omaha Nighthawks
Sacramento Mountain Lions
SFL Central:
Charlston Admirals
Michigan Coyotes
Mobile Gladiators
New Orleans Jazz
SFC East:
Daytona Beach Racers
Fort Lauderdale Barracudas
Hartford Colonials
Virginia Destroyers
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Post by broncofan on Jul 26, 2011 14:23:06 GMT -5
Hypothetical 2012 SFL (if the UFL folded): SFLWest: Las Vegas Locos (scrap the planned SFL LV team) Little Rock Ironmen Omaha Nighthawks Sacramento Mountain Lions SFL Central: Charlston Admirals Michigan Coyotes Mobile Gladiators New Orleans Jazz SFC East: Daytona Beach Racers Fort Lauderdale Barracudas Hartford Colonials Virginia Destroyers If it's a switch to a spring, Omaha is going to have to find a new stadium. The only available spots are Caniglia field - 9500 capacity Werner Park - 9023 capacity (if you can play football there at all) |
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Post by jwolf on Jul 26, 2011 14:52:16 GMT -5
Yeah, i knew that was the weak link in the plan with the college World series there in the spring and all. But something tells me the Nighthawks would and could work something out there if it meant their survival.
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Post by dnewms43 on Jul 27, 2011 9:46:09 GMT -5
Where did you here the rumors about SFL expansion?
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Post by aarondeglau on Jul 27, 2011 10:29:54 GMT -5
Im still saying that another team needs to be in PA, it will do well! also, what is key for this league is a new website with actual news and REAL players. even the national football gridiron league or whatever its called has keon lattimore and a guy who went to the UFL. im kinda excited to see what happens to the new USFL. but put a team in PA SFL since my UFL wont
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Post by aarondeglau on Jul 27, 2011 10:32:17 GMT -5
and there are a lot of college football fields here in PA that can be rented in the spring. nice D2 or D3 fields. here in western PA. PA is a football state and can work here in the spring.
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Post by whaler4life on Jul 27, 2011 12:55:31 GMT -5
DNEWMS43
No real rumors about expansion. The league already announced a team in Charleston, Mobile, Las Vegas, and Little Rock but they won't be playing this season so I'm assuming they will act as expansion teams next year.
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Post by dnewms43 on Jul 27, 2011 17:48:12 GMT -5
Oh okay. I remember there being more teams so I guess they will start next year. Hopefully thry pick up our Colonials too!
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Post by jwolf on Jul 27, 2011 22:27:59 GMT -5
OK, so here's a thought. According to the official SFL website the league is asking 1.5 million to start a new franchise. It also says next year the asking price will be 15 million. Putting aside for the moment the rather bizarre jump in price, even 15 million is 1/2 what the UFL was asking for per franchise. So....................if thats the case, and the UFL, despite doing all it can to cut costs ends up folding..........would it not be logical if one or more of the UFL owners considered salvaging their franchises in a new league that cost a whole lot less? If a UFL owner is willing to lose millions year after year only to see the whole thing fail would it not make sense to salvage an operation thats already established and take a chance on a new league like the SFL? Would they not want even the slimmest chance of succeeding in the SFL over total failure? Thoughts?
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Post by broncofan on Jul 28, 2011 11:00:20 GMT -5
OK, so here's a thought. According to the official SFL website the league is asking 1.5 million to start a new franchise. It also says next year the asking price will be 15 million. Putting aside for the moment the rather bizarre jump in price, even 15 million is 1/2 what the UFL was asking for per franchise. So....................if thats the case, and the UFL, despite doing all it can to cut costs ends up folding..........would it not be logical if one or more of the UFL owners considered salvaging their franchises in a new league that cost a whole lot less? If a UFL owner is willing to lose millions year after year only to see the whole thing fail would it not make sense to salvage an operation thats already established and take a chance on a new league like the SFL? Would they not want even the slimmest chance of succeeding in the SFL over total failure? Thoughts? After going through the UFL business plan (or lack thereof), do you really want to come to this? Does the SFL have a plan or do they just throw darts at a board? |
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Post by jwolf on Jul 28, 2011 11:39:03 GMT -5
Thats a good question. None of us really know yet. But if the UFL owners were willing to lose the money they planned on for the upcoming season why not be willing to cut your losses considerably and still salvage something from their investment by moving to the SFL? I want the UFL to succeed badly, but if worse came to worse I'd like to see the UFL owners take a chance and keep at least some of the UFL franchises alive in the SFL. It would be good for them and really good for the SFL.
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Post by whaler4life on Jul 28, 2011 12:07:21 GMT -5
I think the problem with that is that with the big drop off in price there's also a big drop off in legitimacy and talent. As bad as a job the UFL did with marketing their teams the SFL has done even worse and it doesn't have the ex-NFL and college heroes that the UFL had.
The jump in price next year is probably due to the leagues projected increased expenses for fielding 4 more teams. It could also be that the SFL is planning to drastically improve the league due to the highly possible folding of the UFL. It should be very interesting to see how this league looks next season.
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Post by jwolf on Jul 28, 2011 12:14:06 GMT -5
All true points. But if the UFL folds suddenly a whole lot of talent, willing to play for little money, will be available. And from what I've read the SFL doesn't really have the money to field the additional teams it puts up as being ready for expansion. So.....this is where the UFL owners, at least a couple of them, could step in with ready made franchises and fill the void. At least this would be my hope if the UFL folded. It would perhaps be a win-win for both parties.
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